Post by Rhino
I took a TGV train between Bern, Switzerland and Paris in late summer
1991. I'm very curious to know what the exact route would have been and
if the entire trip would was at TGV speeds.
It is entirely possible that the first part of the trip from Bern to
some point in France was at normal rail speeds at that time. Other parts
of the journey may also have been at normal or at least sub-TGV speeds.
I really don't recall any more.
I DO remember that even when the train seemed to be moving at its
quickest, it didn't seem to be going as fast as I had expected. But that
is probably because I had inappropriate expectations. I think I expected
to see the world looking blurry and for the train to be moving from
horizon to horizon in seconds; it certainly didn't go that fast.
I'm basically just trying to understand where the train went - I don't
recall any stops but there may well have been a very few - and how fast
the train was going at each stage of the journey.
I'm hoping that this newsgroup is full of train exports who can answer
this kind of question easily ;-)
I don't think a lot has changed since 1991. The TGV's were introduced in
Today the services are branded TGV Lyria, in 1991 they were branded
More information on the routing:
From Bern your train would have been routed via Neuchâtel, the border
near Pontarlier, Frasne, Dole and Dijon. Only the last stretch of the
journey (from the junction at Aisy-s.-Armaçon to just outside Paris Gare
de Lyon) would have been on the LGV Sud-Est.
For a map see here:
So regular line speeds (140-160 km/h) would have been reached on the
classic rail lines in both Switzerland and France. Back in 1991 the
maximum speed of the TGV's would have 270 km/h on the LGV. I think about
an hour was shaved off the journey time between Dijon and Paris when the
TGV's were introduced in 1987.
The TGV's used on the route to Switzerland via Dijon are the only ones
that haven't been upgraded to 300 km/h from the batch of TGV's that was
introduced in 1981.