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German rail pass cover U-Bahn anywhere?
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baroque-quest
2010-03-01 16:07:22 UTC
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I know that a German rail pass is valid for the S-Bahn in German
cities, but I seem to remember that it is also valid for the U-Bahn in
one or two cities, maybe Berlin and Munich. Does anyone here know the
official story?
Hatunen
2010-03-01 16:23:12 UTC
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On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 08:07:22 -0800 (PST), baroque-quest
Post by baroque-quest
I know that a German rail pass is valid for the S-Bahn in German
cities, but I seem to remember that it is also valid for the U-Bahn in
one or two cities, maybe Berlin and Munich. Does anyone here know the
official story?
You should check the DeutscheBahn website, but my recollection is
that certain tickets and passes cover local transport to your
final destination. But the DB site is the place to go for
details.
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baroque-quest
2010-03-01 16:59:14 UTC
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Post by Hatunen
You should check the DeutscheBahn website, but my recollection is
that certain tickets and passes cover local transport to your
final destination. But the DB site is the place to go for
details.
I searched for "u-bahn" on DB's website and got 0 results. But one of
Eurail's brochures states that a rail pass is good on any DB train.
So the question seems to be, are any of Germany's U-Bahns run by DB?
Hatunen
2010-03-01 17:09:49 UTC
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On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 08:59:14 -0800 (PST), baroque-quest
Post by baroque-quest
Post by Hatunen
You should check the DeutscheBahn website, but my recollection is
that certain tickets and passes cover local transport to your
final destination. But the DB site is the place to go for
details.
I searched for "u-bahn" on DB's website and got 0 results. But one of
Eurail's brochures states that a rail pass is good on any DB train.
So the question seems to be, are any of Germany's U-Bahns run by DB?
No, but some S-bahns are.

When we were in Germany several years ago we traveled on ICEs and
I know they included local transit to the destination.

But now that I check the DB site, I see that might have been
because we were buying fares with a BahnCard and a City-Ticket
was included.

I strongly urge you to buy your tickets in Europe, not from a web
site like RailEurope.
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Neil Williams
2010-03-01 17:11:40 UTC
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I searched for "u-bahn" on DB's website and got 0 results.  But one of
Eurail's brochures states that a rail pass is good on any DB train.
So the question seems to be, are any of Germany's U-Bahns run by DB?
None of them are, as I recall. Doesn't mean it isn't valid. What
you're probably looking for is if travel within the Verkehrsverbund is
permitted, and this on some tickets varies depending on which one
between:
- all modes, unrestricted
- DB trains only (includes S-Bahn run by DB, which is most or all[1]
of them)
- DB trains only *only for travel into or out of the
Verkehrsverbund*. This means an internal journey even on a DB
regional train is not valid. But just to confuse matters, because an
IC or ICE is never in the Verkehrsverbund, such a train *is* always
valid (I think).

[1] I think Berlin is the only one that wasn't, but I also think it is
now. But don't quote me on that...

Neil
Valentin Brückel
2010-03-01 18:58:46 UTC
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Post by Neil Williams
Post by baroque-quest
I searched for "u-bahn" on DB's website and got 0 results.
Strange. Concerning the validity of tickets however, irrelevant.
Post by Neil Williams
Post by baroque-quest
But one of
Eurail's brochures states that a rail pass is good on any DB train.
So the question seems to be, are any of Germany's U-Bahns run by DB?
What you are looking for is the "CityTicket" option that makes you DB ticket
valid for local transportation at your destination. Includes S-Bahn, U-Bahn,
Stadtbahn, Straßenbahn (tram) and busses, regardless who operates them.
Post by Neil Williams
None of them are, as I recall. Doesn't mean it isn't valid. What
you're probably looking for is if travel within the Verkehrsverbund is
permitted, and this on some tickets varies depending on which one
- all modes, unrestricted
e.g. for a trip to Frankfurt, the destination on your ticket would read
"FRANKFURT+City" in this case.
Post by Neil Williams
- DB trains only (includes S-Bahn run by DB, which is most or all[1]
of them)
You mean trains running on DB tariffs (which basically includes all regional
trains by any operator) - in this case the above ticket would have the
destination "FRANKFURT" (note that no specific station is mentioned)
Post by Neil Williams
- DB trains only *only for travel into or out of the
Verkehrsverbund*. This means an internal journey even on a DB
regional train is not valid. But just to confuse matters, because an
IC or ICE is never in the Verkehrsverbund, such a train *is* always
valid (I think).
That reads very confusing - I don't think you got that right. Bottom line:
Get a ticket to the city you want to go to - regional rail (including S-
Bahn) is always included, all local transportation is included if you buy
the +City option
Post by Neil Williams
[1] I think Berlin is the only one that wasn't, but I also think it is
now. But don't quote me on that...
During later stages of the Cold War, S-Bahn in West-Berlin was run by the
same operator as the U-Bahn. Because of the current crisis, the local
authorities want to hand over as much as possible to other operators.

Currently, the S28 of the Rhine-Ruhr S-Bahn (Düsseldorf) is the only S-Bahn
line not run by DB, the Bremen S-Bahn (starting operations in december) will
also be operated by a subsidiary of Veolia. But, as mentioned, it is
irrelevant who runs the trains as long as DB tickets are valid there (they
are).

Val
Willms
2010-03-02 13:26:33 UTC
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Am Mon, 1 Mar 2010 18:58:46 UTC, schrieb Valentin Brückel
Post by Valentin Brückel
Currently, the S28 of the Rhine-Ruhr S-Bahn (Düsseldorf) is the only S-Bahn
line not run by DB, the Bremen S-Bahn (starting operations in december) will
also be operated by a subsidiary of Veolia.
There is the "Ortenau S-Bahn", short OSB, and the "Breisgau S-Bahn"
or similar, both run by more or less the same company. I once asked
the boss of OSB if their use of the brand name "S-Bahn" is licenced by
DB AG, and got a rather angry sounding answer that they did not do
publish information on such sensitive matters.


Cheers,
L.W.
U***@web.de
2020-06-10 19:15:00 UTC
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Post by Valentin Brückel
Post by baroque-quest
I searched for "u-bahn" on DB's website and got 0 results.
Strange. Concerning the validity of tickets however, irrelevant.
Post by baroque-quest
But one of
Eurail's brochures states that a rail pass is good on any DB train.
So the question seems to be, are any of Germany's U-Bahns run by DB?
What you are looking for is the "CityTicket" option that makes you DB ticket
valid for local transportation at your destination. Includes S-Bahn, U-Bahn,
Stadtbahn, Straßenbahn (tram) and busses, regardless who operates them.
For our Capital, the rule shall be extended from Berlin A to
Berlin AB next Sunday. Should also work officially with
BahnCard100 Rail Passes.

I would not try with Eurail or Interrail.
Graeme Wall
2020-06-10 20:10:39 UTC
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Post by U***@web.de
Post by Valentin Brückel
Post by baroque-quest
I searched for "u-bahn" on DB's website and got 0 results.
Strange. Concerning the validity of tickets however, irrelevant.
Post by baroque-quest
But one of
Eurail's brochures states that a rail pass is good on any DB train.
So the question seems to be, are any of Germany's U-Bahns run by DB?
What you are looking for is the "CityTicket" option that makes you DB ticket
valid for local transportation at your destination. Includes S-Bahn, U-Bahn,
Stadtbahn, Straßenbahn (tram) and busses, regardless who operates them.
For our Capital, the rule shall be extended from Berlin A to
Berlin AB next Sunday. Should also work officially with
BahnCard100 Rail Passes.
I would not try with Eurail or Interrail.
You are 10 years too late with that advice.
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Arthur Figgis
2020-06-10 20:53:51 UTC
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Post by Graeme Wall
Post by U***@web.de
Post by Valentin Brückel
Post by baroque-quest
I searched for "u-bahn" on DB's website and got 0 results.
Strange. Concerning the validity of tickets however, irrelevant.
Post by baroque-quest
But one of
Eurail's brochures states that a rail pass is good on any DB train.
So the question seems to be, are any of Germany's U-Bahns run by DB?
What you are looking for is the "CityTicket" option that makes you DB ticket
valid for local transportation at your destination. Includes S-Bahn, U-Bahn,
Stadtbahn, Straßenbahn (tram) and busses, regardless who operates them.
For our Capital, the rule shall be extended from Berlin A to
Berlin AB next Sunday. Should also work officially with
BahnCard100 Rail Passes.
I would not try with Eurail or Interrail.
You are 10 years too late with that advice.
Points failure in the Frankfurt area.
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U***@web.de
2020-06-12 06:44:35 UTC
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Post by Graeme Wall
Post by U***@web.de
Post by Valentin Brückel
Post by baroque-quest
I searched for "u-bahn" on DB's website and got 0 results.
Strange. Concerning the validity of tickets however, irrelevant.
Post by baroque-quest
But one of
Eurail's brochures states that a rail pass is good on any DB train.
So the question seems to be, are any of Germany's U-Bahns run by DB?
What you are looking for is the "CityTicket" option that makes you DB ticket
valid for local transportation at your destination. Includes S-Bahn, U-Bahn,
Stadtbahn, Straßenbahn (tram) and busses, regardless who operates them.
For our Capital, the rule shall be extended from Berlin A to
Berlin AB next Sunday. Should also work officially with
BahnCard100 Rail Passes.
I would not try with Eurail or Interrail.
You are 10 years too late with that advice.
They were a bit late in changing tariff conditions
from the day after tomorrow.

Wolfgang Schwanke
2010-03-01 19:56:13 UTC
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Post by baroque-quest
Post by Hatunen
You should check the DeutscheBahn website, but my recollection is
that certain tickets and passes cover local transport to your
final destination. But the DB site is the place to go for
details.
I searched for "u-bahn" on DB's website and got 0 results. But one of
Eurail's brochures states that a rail pass is good on any DB train.
So the question seems to be, are any of Germany's U-Bahns run by DB?
No, but in some cases there are agreements between Deutsche Bahn and a
Verkehrsverbund (regional transport system) that DB tickets are valid
on that system, which would then include non-DB carriers like U-Bahn,
trams and buses. Berlin is an example, details here:

http://www.vbbonline.de/index.php?cat=2&sCat=392&id_language=2
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Oliver Schnell
2010-03-01 17:16:22 UTC
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Post by baroque-quest
I know that a German rail pass is valid for the S-Bahn in German
cities, but I seem to remember that it is also valid for the U-Bahn in
one or two cities, maybe Berlin and Munich. Does anyone here know the
official story?
In Nuremberg, all rail tickets are valid on the U2 between the stops
Hbf (Central Station) and Nordost (Northeast Station) in case you are
traveling to/from stations on the Nürnberg Nordost - Gräfenberg railway
line. In fact no one is able to check that, if you are a holder of a
rail pass.

Is it possible that you mix up conditions for a German rail pass with
those of the BahnCard 100 (season ticket for all trains in Germany and
public transport in 118 towns in Germany, valid one year)?

Oliver Schnell
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