translation technical term "Servicefahrt"

[Tadej Brezina]

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Dear newsgroup readers!

Could you please advise me on what the correct English translation of
the German technical term "Servicefahrt" could be?

A "Servicefahrt" means the scheduled, but not necessarily executed stop
at a station by a means of public transport.
I would describe this parameter as a measure of a stations service
quality, that usually needs not to be realized in practice, as buses for
example may not stop at (mostly minor) stations as there may be no
requests for alighting/boarding.
So, for example, if the timetable says that on a line two buses run per
day, one bus stops at stations A and B while the other bus stops only at
station A this makes for yearly "Servicefahrten" of 730 (A) and 365 (B).

Thanks in advance and
best regards from Austria
T+

[Jeremy Double]

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Dear newsgroup readers!
Could you please advise me on what the correct English translation of the
German technical term "Servicefahrt" could be?
A "Servicefahrt" means the scheduled, but not necessarily executed stop
at a station by a means of public transport.
I would describe this parameter as a measure of a stations service
quality, that usually needs not to be realized in practice, as buses for
example may not stop at (mostly minor) stations as there may be no
requests for alighting/boarding.
So, for example, if the timetable says that on a line two buses run per
day, one bus stops at stations A and B while the other bus stops only at
station A this makes for yearly "Servicefahrten" of 730 (A) and 365 (B).

I think there isn't a direct translation. I would say that the station has
a service pattern of (say) 2 departures per hour or whatever. I think
that a per hour or per day figure would be more common than an annual
figure, in the UK.

Also, annual figures wouldn't be a multiple of 365: there is almost no
public transport in the UK on 25th December, for instance.

[Stephen Sprunk]

Post by Jeremy Double

Post by Tadej Brezina
So, for example, if the timetable says that on a line two buses run
per day, one bus stops at stations A and B while the other bus
stops only at station A this makes for yearly "Servicefahrten" of
730 (A) and 365 (B).

I think there isn't a direct translation. I would say that the
station has a service pattern of (say) 2 departures per hour or
whatever. I think that a per hour or per day figure would be more
common than an annual figure, in the UK.
Also, annual figures wouldn't be a multiple of 365: there is almost
no public transport in the UK on 25th December, for instance.

Really?

Here, it seems transit agencies operate a "weekend" schedule of some
sort on major holidays. For instance, DART's current policy is a
"Sunday" schedule on Memorial Day, Independence Day, Labor Day,
Thanksgiving Day, Christmas Day and New Year's Day, and a "Saturday"
schedule on the day after Thanksgiving (aka Black Friday). While some
routes don't run on Sundays, most do run with reduced frequency.

DART doesn't do memory schedules exactly, but they do have a base
schedule of 1-3 trips/hour for local routes; on weekdays, they add
additional local trips and in some cases redundant limited/express
routes to bring service frequency up to 5-15 trips/hour during peak
hours. A weekend schedule means you'll wait longer and/or travel
slower, but you can still get to all the same places.

Trying to figure the number of trips per year gets tricky because years
start on a varying day of the week--and even have a variable number of
days total. If you want a number that is easy to calculate and to
compare across all routes, it would be trips per week, not accounting
for holidays.

S

[John Levine]

Post by Stephen Sprunk

Post by Jeremy Double
Also, annual figures wouldn't be a multiple of 365: there is almost
no public transport in the UK on 25th December, for instance.

Really?

Really. In the UK, wherever you are the evening of 24 Dec is in all
likelihood where you will be through the 26th. The entire national
rail network is shut down, as is most local transport. In London
there are a few coaches between Heathrow and downtown, run by the
company that normally runs coaches between Oxford and London, and
precious little else.

[Roger T.]

Really. In the UK, wherever you are the evening of 24 Dec is in all
likelihood where you will be through the 26th. The entire national
rail network is shut down, as is most local transport. In London
there are a few coaches between Heathrow and downtown, run by the
company that normally runs coaches between Oxford and London, and
precious little else.
--
Never used to be like that. Not back in the 1960s and, I think, 1970s.

Think it's a "privatization" thing.




-- Cheers.

Roger T.

Home of the late Great Eastern Railway
http://greateasternrailway.com

More photos of the late GER at: -
http://s94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/rogertra/Great_Eastern/

[tim.....]

Post by John Levine
Really. In the UK, wherever you are the evening of 24 Dec is in all
likelihood where you will be through the 26th. The entire national
rail network is shut down, as is most local transport. In London
there are a few coaches between Heathrow and downtown, run by the
company that normally runs coaches between Oxford and London, and
precious little else.
--
Never used to be like that. Not back in the 1960s and, I think, 1970s.

I think that you have to go back further than that for the 25th

I can remember, as a kid, a TV news item about that being the first year
that there were no train on the 26th, that would have been within your dates

(I've no idea why that item stuck BTW, I had no interest in trains at the
time)

tim

[roger]

Post by tim.....

Post by John Levine
Really. In the UK, wherever you are the evening of 24 Dec is in all
likelihood where you will be through the 26th. The entire national
rail network is shut down, as is most local transport. In London
there are a few coaches between Heathrow and downtown, run by the
company that normally runs coaches between Oxford and London, and
precious little else.
--
Never used to be like that. Not back in the 1960s and, I think, 1970s.

I think that you have to go back further than that for the 25th
I can remember, as a kid, a TV news item about that being the first year
that there were no train on the 26th, that would have been within your dates
(I've no idea why that item stuck BTW, I had no interest in trains at
the time)
tim

Strictly speaking the rail network is not shut down over Christmas.
Passenger and freight trains do stop but engineers' services still run
for the numerous engineering works that take place.

[Peter Masson]

Post by tim.....
I think that you have to go back further than that for the 25th
I can remember, as a kid, a TV news item about that being the first year
that there were no train on the 26th, that would have been within your dates

BR passenger services in England & Wales on 25 December came to an end in
the 1960s. On the SR, until the early 1960s there used to be around 4 trains
at 2-hourly intervals on suburban routes, and one mid-morning train on most
routes between London and the Coast. By 1968 IIRC the only BR passenger
trains in England on 25 December were a couple of Victoria to Dover Boat
Trains each way. I am not sure about 1969, but they were definitely
bustituted in 1970.

The 1975 BR timetable indicates modified Boxing Day service in England &
Wales, but the 1976 timetable indicates no service.

At least until 1976 there seems to have been a limited local service in
Scotland on both 25 and 26 December, but in Scotland the complete shutdown
has tended to be on 1 January.

Peter

[Roger T.]

BR passenger services in England & Wales on 25 December came to an end in
the 1960s. On the SR, until the early 1960s


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I left in January 1966 and I'm sure there were trains Christmas Day and
Boxing Day.



-- Cheers.

Roger T.

Home of the late Great Eastern Railway
http://greateasternrailway.com

More photos of the late GER at: -
http://s94.photobucket.com/albums/l99/rogertra/Great_Eastern/

[Graeme Wall]

Post by Peter Masson
BR passenger services in England & Wales on 25 December came to an end in
the 1960s. On the SR, until the early 1960s
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I left in January 1966 and I'm sure there were trains Christmas Day and
Boxing Day.

I seem to remember it happening and I wasn't back in the UK till 1968

[tim.....]

Post by Stephen Sprunk

Post by Jeremy Double

Post by Tadej Brezina
So, for example, if the timetable says that on a line two buses run
per day, one bus stops at stations A and B while the other bus
stops only at station A this makes for yearly "Servicefahrten" of
730 (A) and 365 (B).

I think there isn't a direct translation. I would say that the
station has a service pattern of (say) 2 departures per hour or
whatever. I think that a per hour or per day figure would be more
common than an annual figure, in the UK.
Also, annual figures wouldn't be a multiple of 365: there is almost
no public transport in the UK on 25th December, for instance.

Really?

Yes really!

But even if we ignore that, for a "full" service the number of trains per
year is still not going to be a multiple of number of operating days.

Even in Germany there are fewer services on a Sunday than on Monday to
Friday at most stations

tim

[Tadej Brezina]

Post by tim.....

Post by Stephen Sprunk

Post by Tadej Brezina
So, for example, if the timetable says that on a line two buses run
per day, one bus stops at stations A and B while the other bus
stops only at station A this makes for yearly "Servicefahrten" of
730 (A) and 365 (B).

I think there isn't a direct translation. I would say that the
station has a service pattern of (say) 2 departures per hour or
whatever. I think that a per hour or per day figure would be more
common than an annual figure, in the UK.
Also, annual figures wouldn't be a multiple of 365: there is almost
no public transport in the UK on 25th December, for instance.

Really?

Yes really!
But even if we ignore that, for a "full" service the number of trains
per year is still not going to be a multiple of number of operating days.
Even in Germany there are fewer services on a Sunday than on Monday to
Friday at most stations

Shure, of course. I used the very simple example just for illustrative
reasons!

T+

[Roland Perry]

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at 20:24:23 on Sun, 18 Aug 2013, Jeremy Double

I think that a per hour or per day figure would be more common than an
annual figure, in the UK.

Or the confusingly co-existing "from every 7 minutes" and "up to every 7
minutes" used by Nottingham City Transport on their busiest runs (eg
#45, #58). [Also several other services where n=10).