Ilyichevsk - Derince rail ferry

[Ulf Kutzner]

At what point of the ferry route
http://www.ukrferry.com/eng/tariffs/derince.asp between Ukraine and
Turkey cars are regauged?

Regards, ULF

[Patrick Bonacker]

Hi,

on Tue, 02 Sep 2003 10:07:18 +0200, Ulf Kutzner

Post by Ulf Kutzner
At what point of the ferry route
http://www.ukrferry.com/eng/tariffs/derince.asp between Ukraine and
Turkey cars are regauged?

Looks like they aren't regauged at all, see
http://www.ukrferry.com/eng/services/ferry.asp

"In CIS - Turkey direction: transportation by railways or by trucks
from shipper in Russia, Ukraine, Belorussia, or Baltic states' to
llyichevsk, loading to the vessel, discharging of cargo from rail
wagons at the port of Derince...
In Turkey - CIS direction: shipment by trucks from Turkey's
Manufacturer to the Derince port. Loading at the port of Derince to
the railway rolling stock..."

Greetings,
Patrick

[Ulf Kutzner]

Post by Patrick Bonacker
Looks like they aren't regauged at all, see
http://www.ukrferry.com/eng/services/ferry.asp
"In CIS - Turkey direction: transportation by railways or by trucks
from shipper in Russia, Ukraine, Belorussia, or Baltic states' to
llyichevsk, loading to the vessel, discharging of cargo from rail
wagons at the port of Derince...
In Turkey - CIS direction: shipment by trucks from Turkey's
Manufacturer to the Derince port. Loading at the port of Derince to
the railway rolling stock..."

So they do have 1520 mm at Derince?

Regards, ULF

[Patrick Bonacker]

Hallo,

on Tue, 02 Sep 2003 19:16:10 +0200, Ulf Kutzner

Post by Ulf Kutzner

Post by Patrick Bonacker
Looks like they aren't regauged at all, see
http://www.ukrferry.com/eng/services/ferry.asp
"In CIS - Turkey direction: transportation by railways or by trucks
from shipper in Russia, Ukraine, Belorussia, or Baltic states' to
llyichevsk, loading to the vessel, discharging of cargo from rail
wagons at the port of Derince...
In Turkey - CIS direction: shipment by trucks from Turkey's
Manufacturer to the Derince port. Loading at the port of Derince to
the railway rolling stock..."

So they do have 1520 mm at Derince?

Seems so.

BTW, 1520 mm in Turkey.
What about Kars - Gyumri (Armenia)? There's some information about a
never used regauging facility at Akhurian station in Armenia build in
Soviet times. But is there a 1520 mm track into Turkey and what is the
current status?

Patrick

[Ulf Kutzner]

Post by Patrick Bonacker
on Tue, 02 Sep 2003 19:16:10 +0200, Ulf Kutzner

Post by Ulf Kutzner

Post by Patrick Bonacker
Looks like they aren't regauged at all, see
http://www.ukrferry.com/eng/services/ferry.asp
"In CIS - Turkey direction: transportation by railways or by trucks
from shipper in Russia, Ukraine, Belorussia, or Baltic states' to
llyichevsk, loading to the vessel, discharging of cargo from rail
wagons at the port of Derince...
In Turkey - CIS direction: shipment by trucks from Turkey's
Manufacturer to the Derince port. Loading at the port of Derince to
the railway rolling stock..."

So they do have 1520 mm at Derince?

Seems so.

Non-border-crossing Derince - Tekirdağ over the Marmara Sea
operated until 2020.

Now Marmaray tunnel takes freight trains during night under the
Bosporus strait..

Post by Patrick Bonacker
BTW, 1520 mm in Turkey.
What about Kars - Gyumri (Armenia)? There's some information about a
never used regauging facility at Akhurian station in Armenia build in
Soviet times. But is there a 1520 mm track into Turkey

There was, and it seems to me that that was quite normal for
Soviet and post-Soviet rail border crossings.

Post by Patrick Bonacker
and what is the
current status?

Unusable since 1993 for Akhuryan - Doğukapı as the land border is closed.
Direct flights were not concerned.

Regards, ULF